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  • Qu’'est-ce que le mandat de prélèvement SEPA ? Qu'est ce que le virement SEPA ?

Le SEPA (Single Euro Payment Area ou Espace unique de paiement en euros) désigne un ensemble de règles et de pratiques visant à établir un espace de paiement unifié en Europe.

  • IMMO DE FRANCE PARIS IDF - 20 Rue Treilhard - 75415 PARIS CEDEX 08

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In any case, as an example, our LCL releve has been including in our quarterly statements 16.01 VIR Permanent Cabinet Villa SAS Paiement de Co Propriete 1.100 Euros every three months, the latest 16.01.17 many thanks for helping us out here - part of the problem is that in October 2015 I took sick with pancreatic cancer and was "out of it" until quite recently. I'll search around for all the past LCL releve de comptes since we sold the apartment.

David

Forwarded Message -----

From: A & D Fenby <fenby@orange.fr> To: Lilyan White <lilyanwhite@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:57 AM Subject: Cabinet Villa

Hi Lilyan and Doug

This latest problem of yours worries me; to put it simply, the pieces of the jigsaw are not fitting together.

The simplest explanation is carelessness/incompetence at a few levels; an extreme explanation is dishonesty, but I don’t believe this, at least not at present, because the gain to the organization benefitting would be negligible next to its reputation.

Steps taken:

Anaig looked into what is required to block future payments and for you to be reimbursed, but clarification is needed to proceed.

I’m sorting out the relationship between the Cabinet Villa, a past Syndic for the Tour Athènes, and Immo de France, the current Syndic for the Tour Athènes. Both have the same address in 75008 Paris, and I think it’s simply a question of the former becoming a branch of the latter (and changing its name in doing so); I await confirmation.

How can you help?

Statements from LCL, in particular that for last January showing the latest deduction by Cabinet Villa, and one from the period when you owned the apartment showing the automatic deduction of the ‘charges’ for the Tour Athènes. For the quarter prior to the transfer of your apartment to the Banks, were there one or two deductions relating to the ‘charges’?

If you still have it, I would like a copy of the authority you gave to LCL or the Cabinet Villa to deduct from your LCL account.

A representative of Immo de France is at the Tour Athènes once a week. The next step will be for me to meet with this person (- we return to Paris on Tuesday), but I need LCL statements to make the case.

There are 2 objectives:

To block all further payment to the Cabinet Villa from your LCL account (- the next is probably due mid-April); this is easily done, but it’s important to do so in a manner that facilitates the second objective:

To get you a refund.

I proceed cautiously because it’s not at all clear where the fault is – Cabinet Villa? – your notaire at the time of sale? Certainly not LCL; it has simply been doing what you authorized it to do.

Love and hugs,

David

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Faux Paiments aux Cabinet Villa

Confondue avec des paiements à la Villa ferme d’alors


Problem: Faux Paiment a Cabinet Villa de Puis 01/29/2015

We owned an apartment at Tour Athene, The Olympiad at 17 Rue Javelot (apartment 243). The group managing that apartment was Cabinet Villa. They collected 1,100 Euros every four months as their fee.

On January 29, 2015 the apartment was sold to Mr. Anthony Banks - who from that time forward was the owner and, of course, paid all fees, including to the managers who are no longer Cabinet Villa. Cabinet Villa thus has no claim to money from our account since January 2015 and has been paid in error. Of course, any further payment to Cabinet Villa should have stopped years ago; namely in February 2015. Payments to Cabinet Villa should stop as I discussed with you on the phone yesterday. In fact, we are owed money mistakenly paid to Cabinet Villa for the period after the apartment sale in 2015. Let's please correct those errors so that the money owed to us is returned to our CL account.

If possible I would appreciate a record of all monies paid out to Cabinet Villa since the time of the sale of our apartment to Mr. Banks in 01/29/2015.

Many thanks for dealing with this error as soon as possible. Lilyan Brudner-White Lilyanwhite@yahoo.com

Douglas R. White, drwhite@uci.edu

-9 2017 2009

LCL --- Cabinet Villa SAS IMMO de France place of business as of 2009

-8 2007 2009

Bonjour Monsieur,

Pour faire suite à votre message, nous vous informons que, suivant une déclaration de dissolution sans liquidation en date du 28 novembre 2007, l’associé unique de la société CABINET VILLA, la société ICADE ADMINISTRATION DE BIENS, a décidé (2009) de dissoudre sans liquidation la société CABINET VILLA.

D’autre part, par décision du 14 décembre 2009, ICADE ADMINISTRATION DE BIENS a changé de dénomination sociale et a pris la dénomination sociale IMMO DE FRANCE.

Cordialement

Muriel BOMPAY
Immo de France
Assistante Direction Générale 
muriel.bompay@immodefrance.com
Tél. 01 40 82 69 02

-7 2013

Giruthika SATHEESKUMAR 01 44 41 30 26
Giruthika SATHEESKUMAR@www.LCL.fr
  10456906911 Multirisques Habitation      
  10456906911 Multirisques Habitation 
      144230303 
https://particuliers.lcl.fr/prelevement-sepa/
Client LCL 1608245000027046889A000080377593904

Sean Golding

http://www.frenchpropertylinks.com/moving-to-france/capital-gains-tax-france.html

Declaration Preremplie revenus 2013 http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/deploiement/p1/fichedescriptive_6631/fichedescriptive_6631.pdf

-6 2008

https://translate.google.com/#fr/en/capitaux%20mobilier

incomes - expenses = net incomes ------- revenus - dépenses = revenus nets

Simencourt -- Paris 243

[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-03-26-aicpa-q22-second-home-capital-gains_N.htm

[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-03-26-aicpa-q22-second-home-capital-gains_N.htm

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Faux Paiments aux Cabinet Villa

Confondue avec des paiements à la Villa ferme d’alors

Problem: Faux Paiment a Cabinet Villa de Puis 01/29/2015

We owned an apartment at Tour Athene, The Olympiad at 17 Rue Javelot (apartment 243). The group managing that apartment was Cabinet Villa. They collected 1,100 Euros every four months as their fee.

On January 29, 2015 the apartment was sold to Mr. Anthony Banks - who from that time forward was the owner and, of course, paid all fees, including to the managers who are no longer Cabinet Villa. Cabinet Villa thus has no claim to money from our account since January 2015 and has been paid in error. Of course, any further payment to Cabinet Villa should have stopped years ago; namely in February 2015. Payments to Cabinet Villa should stop as I discussed with you on the phone yesterday. In fact, we are owed money mistakenly paid to Cabinet Villa for the period after the apartment sale in 2015. Let's please correct those errors so that the money owed to us is returned to our CL account.

If possible I would appreciate a record of all monies paid out to Cabinet Villa since the time of the sale of our apartment to Mr. Banks in 01/29/2015.

Many thanks for dealing with this error as soon as possible. Lilyan Brudner-White Lilyanwhite@yahoo.com

Douglas R. White, drwhite@uci.edu

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  • Hi Guys:
  • Now remembering what pests we have been, you will have the joy of being of free of being bothered by us for our lack of grace in French for time and eternity.. of our pathetic incompetence and its consequences. I can see you now celebarating "To the end of the pests..another champagne!! Or two!
  • Anyway
  • 1 I wrote the email to a lady who is our counselor or whatever at Credit Lyonnaise.
  • 2 I made a mistake - now having in hand the lovely Mrs Banks email saying "the apartment closure was today" the date on it was 10/29/2015. In my email to CL, alas, I wrote the wrong date entirely ..so I have to change it when I actually send th email to Lady at CL. Easy to change thank God before I send the revised email.
  • 3 I was hoping that Anaiq might translate the single paragraph in the letter to French..then voila..I send it off and maybe they stop paying 1,100.oo euos to Cabinet Villa..I have the relieve de compete right here that shows one such payment..long after the apt was sold to Bans.
  • 4 If you could be kind hearted and could see the benefit of helping us clip the final ties to rue Javelin and fix the paragraph of complaint in the email, I will send it off directly to our Lady at CL>
  • A thousand humiliations and a million gratitudes
  • Lilyan and Doug

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  • 1. wrote the email to a lady who is our counselor or whatever at Credit Lyonnaise.
  • 2. I made a mistake - now having in hand the lovely Mrs Banks email saying "the apartment closure was today" the date on it was 10/29/2015. In my email to CL, alas, I wrote the wrong date entirely ..so I have to change it when I actually send th email to Lady at CL. Easy to change thank God before I send the revised email.
  • 3. I was hoping that Anaiq might translate the single paragraph in the letter to French..then voila..I send it off and maybe they stop paying 1,100.oo euos to Cabinet Villa..I have the relieve de compete right here that shows one such payment..long after the apt was sold to Bans.
  • 4. If you could be kind hearted and could see the benefit of helping us clip the final ties to rue Javelin and fix the paragraph of complaint in the email, I will send it off directly to our Lady at CL>
  • A thousand humiliations and a million gratitudes
  • Lilyan and Doug

-2 2007

  • Send to Fenby: TUTLAIRE DE COMPTE

MME Lilyan Brudner-White et Mr Douglas White 8633 C via Mallorca, LaJolla, California 92037 USA email: drwhite@uci.edu

Credit Lyonnais Paris Quartier Latin 22 Blvd ST Michael 75005 Paris Banque 30002 Indicatif 00421 No de Compte 0000752951A CLE 79

We sold our apartment on the second floor of The Olymbiad/Tour Athene - 17 Rue Javelot, 75013 Paris in 2014 to Mr Anthony Banks. Cabinet Villa a ete manager and had charged us a fee four times a year. When the apartment was sold and no longer ours Cabinet Villa was owned no money by us and had no right to submit a bill to Credit Lyonaisse from our account. Apparently Credit Lyonnais has been paying them monies from our account even as late as 31.01.2017. This must stop at once. We need also an enumeration from Credit Lyonnaise of the money paid to Cabinet Villa from the period of Octoer 2014 to 2027.

Thank you in advance,

Lilyan Brudner-White

Dear David and Anaiq:

Can you help us with this single paragraph to get it right so that Credit Lyonaisse stops taking money out of our account. Enjoy the view.

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  • Email Credit Lyonnais 22 Boulevard Saint Michel Paris
  • https://www.yelp.com/biz/lcl-paris-9
  • Credit Lyonnais New York 212 265 2167
  • Paris 01 44 41 30 14
  • fax 01 44 07 19 31
  • Paris phone 331 44 41 15 30
  • 01 44 41 15 30 Agence Particulier
  • Giruthika 01 44 41 30 26
  • Giruthika SATHEESKUMAR@www.LCL.fr
  • Giruthika Satheeskumar@www.LCL.fr

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  • 22 Boulevard St Michel
75006 Paris
France
Saint-Michel/Odéon, 6ème
Transit information  Cluny - La Sorbonne and 2 more stations
Phone number +33 1 44 41 30 14
                             09 69 36 30 30
Bank La Jolla
30002 00421 0000752951A

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Feb 2017: Your problem with Cabinet Villa puzzles me for several reasons:

1. Cabinet Villa is no longer the syndic for Tour Athènes, and hasn’t been for some time. The current syndic is Immo de France, which I think took over from or merged with Cabinet Villa.

2. The charges are paid quarterly, not every 4 months as you mention in your email.

3. The sum for the first quarter 2017 was about €1400, not the €1100.00 you mention.

4. The date you mention is 16-01-07. Is that what you meant? If so, €1100 is about right.

5. The payment of charges would have been taken care of by your notaire at the time of sale; the charges for the then current quarter would then have been divided between you and the Banks according to occupancy during that quarter.

6. Has anything been deducted from your LCL account by Cabinet Villa since the sale of your apartment? If so, you must write to LCL blocking the authority you gave to Cabinet Villa to deduct from your account; this must be done in writing using registered mail (or whatever it’s called in the US).

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Thierry LANGRENEY
If you can help me I have sold my apartment at Tour Athene Paris Habitation 10456906911
M White Douglas 
EEUU 9633 C Via Mallorca
La Jolla ca 92037, U.S.A.
and need to cancel ASSURANCE payments at
LCL
ASSURANCES IARD 
BP 13013 - ALIXAN 
26958 VALENCE CEDEX 9
where your name is undersigned as
Directeur General de Pacifica
 Perhaps you could help me to cancel the ASSURANCES IARD for our compte
number 0000752951A
 many thanks, and much appreciated

3 2013

Giruthika SATHEESKUMAR 01 44 41 30 26
Giruthika SATHEESKUMAR@www.LCL.fr
Giruthika Satheeskumar@www.LCL.fr
  10456906911 Multirisques Habitation      
  10456906911 Multirisques Habitation 
      144230303 
https://particuliers.lcl.fr/prelevement-sepa/
Client LCL 1608245000027046889A000080377593904

Sean Golding

http://www.frenchpropertylinks.com/moving-to-france/capital-gains-tax-france.html

Declaration Preremplie revenus 2013 http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/deploiement/p1/fichedescriptive_6631/fichedescriptive_6631.pdf

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https://translate.google.com/#fr/en/capitaux%20mobilier

incomes - expenses = net incomes ------- revenus - dépenses = revenus nets

Simencourt -- Paris 243

[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-03-26-aicpa-q22-second-home-capital-gains_N.htm

[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-03-26-aicpa-q22-second-home-capital-gains_N.htm